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DreamFlight,

If you would like to fly with us on a scenic flight

John or Betty Pappas by reply e-mail at dreamflight@sprynet.com
or by phone at 949 472 9612.
You may also visit our web site at www.vintageflight.com
to see more about our activities.

This may be (probably is) the last time
you will EVER be able to experience the adventure
of flying in a Douglas DC-3 on a scenic flight in our local area.
Contact us now for more information about this exciting opportunity.

We have a LOT of exciting things happening at DreamFlight.
The trip this weekend to LAS will be great.
We always have a wonderful time while at the Nellis Air Show
and expect the same now.
Our hosts are just super and the air show itself is fascinating.

DC-3 GROUND SCHOOL and FLIGHT TRAINING ~~ we have now scheduled a class and the examiner for just after Thanksgiving. We will begin our GS class on Nov. 25 and plan flight checks on Nov. 30 / Dec. 1. This will be a great class and an opportunity to complete your DC-3 Type Rating or 61.58 recurrency check ride before the end of the year. Please e-mail or call me at 949 472 9612 or mobile 949 235 6532 if you want to participate in this class.

PROPOSED SEMINAR TRIP TO PARIS AIR SHOW, June 2007: We are putting together a seminar series and trip to appear at the Paris Air Show in June, 2007. This will be a fascinating adventure for those who participate. We will conduct a seminar which follows (each direction) the route of flight that 'Rose' and our aircraft took to journeyby the Northern Route to the U.K. / ETO during WWII. Seminars each day will explore the history of these flights including preparation, route decisions, wx considerations, base building / maintenance, etc.

The actual flight in 'Rose' is at NO CHARGE for those who participate with a paid seminar fee. There are only a limited number of NO COST seats available. All who are interested may participate in the seminar program. We expect to have guest appearances / talks by actual participants (flight and ground personnel) of these crossings in the 1940's.

Pilots who participate
will be able to log an Atlantic Crossing
in their logbook.

Additionally, we will provide services for those who
want to participate in the seminar and who want to fly their own aircraft
to the Paris Air Show.
DreamFlight will assist with aircraft preparation,
flight planning and route assistance on each leg of the trip.
For those who want to fly only one direction in their own aircraft
and log an ATLANTIC CROSSING,
DreamFlight will provide services to return your aircraft
to your home base from the U.K.

Those are only a few of the exciting things in store for DreamFlight.
Please contact me by e-mail or call anytime to 949 472 9612
or mobile to learn more about what we are doing at DreamFlight
and to participate in our activities.

We look forward to hearing from you soon.

Best regards, John & Betty Pappas for DreamFlight

Westernair, as exclusive agent, offers for immediate sale one Douglas R4D-8Z Super DC-3 .
Aircraft is being sold with fresh inspection, ready to go.
Very low time airframe, engines and props, this is the last known "Zulu" bird remaining.
Long range fuel, running excellent, and in super condition throughoutl
Very nice executive interior, seating for 16 passengers and 5 crew
- aircraft was used by the U S Navy as a corporate airplane.
By far and away the best value in a Super 3 that there is.
$349,500 with fresh inspection. Call for full details.
Westernair Inc - 505-842-4444 - Email: duravia3@aol.com.

QEC Engine Stand R-1340 and R-1830
RH Aileron (needs re-cover)
2 ea. Cylinders R-1830
Carburetor
Cargo Door c/w Airstair
Prop Dome 23E50
Rudder (needs repair)
Vacuum pump (removed serviceable)
Prop governor c/w bracket, pulley and cables (removed serviceable)
2 ea, P/N 29743 Gasket, carb
2 ea. 803 Gland nut, intake pipe
P/N 1115820, tailwheel shear pin
CHT and Carb Temp probes
2 ea. Dilution/primer solenoid, new
Cowl flap linkages, misc.
Engine control push-pull tubes incl. rod ends
4135240 Seal (Fuel tank cap well)
Cowl latches
Fire detection probes
New governor pulley with cable
Intake pipes, numerous
Gaskets, misc.
Fuel pump - tagged
Cuno filter and housing
2 Main gear tires, life remaining
1 Tailwheel tire, incl. tube, spare only
3 ea. Main Gear Oleos c/w attaching hardware and trusses
1 Tailwheel Oleo
Brake drums, axles, shoes
Hoses, misc. Oil and fuel
Exhaust sections, numerous
4 ea. Tach Generator
2 ea. Voltage Regulator
Misc. Instruments
Power brake valve (new, tagged)
Carb Inlet junctions
Landing light deflector
Hydraulic. Pump (removed serviceable)
Main Hydraulic Selector Valve c/w plumbing
Many engine spares from pushrods, housings, hardware
Landing Gear Dustshields linkages
Cockpit window Fwd section
3 ea. Vernatherms
Rocker covers
Brownline seat track, numerous sections
Cabin pax seat
Landing light lenses and frames
Plus numerous misc. Engine and airframe parts
DC-3 Towbar
Wing covers (new, never used)

Contact:
Moravia Inc.
Tel: (807) 475-5113
Fax: (807) 475-9587
Email: moravia@tbaytel.net

Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 14:32:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kathy Hammond <kerhammond@yahoo.com>
Subject: Noticeboard
To: dc3@dc3museum.org

Please can you put on your noticeboard an advert for me.

Avaiation in Northamptonshire
by Michael Gibson
pub Northamptonshire Libraries

in good condition with slip cover intact In good clean condition £75

Mrs K Hammond
18 Bridgemeadow
Denton
Northampton
NN7 1 DA
email: kerhammond@yahoo:com

US registered, operated under a FAR Part 135 certificate,
Normandy invasion participant and still painted in the Normandy scheme,
N58NA is for sale. Price: $250,000 US.
Contact Michael Dockery for information.

From: dodson@hixnet.co.za
Subject: Dc 3 Speed Kits
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002

I have a DC-3 / C-47 here in South Africa and am interested in doing what ever it takes to get a few extra knots.
Does anybody out there have info on Gap Seals, Landing gear fairings, Wing fillets etc.
We run a lot of freight and would like to fly higher so we would also need a simple but safe crew oxygen system.
I would also be interested in reducing the gear retraction time to improve out sector 1 performance.
Graham Taylor.

DC3 / C47 & SUPER DC3 / R4D8,
FREIGHT OPERATION AND FLIGHT TRAINING
BUSINESS FOR SALE IN HEAVENLY HAWAII.

CONTACT "GENAVCO AIR CARGO CORPORATION"
ATTN: HARRY CLARK
TEL: (808) 836-3467

For Sale:
WWII Waco Combat Glider Cockpit only

from a CG15-A.Model.

These were the Gliders towed behind Military C-47s and British Aircraft.
They were standard doctrine to move men and supplies to European Theaters of operation.
The UN-restored Cockpit is mostly complete
with seats, Plexiglas, all new instruments, spoiler handles, tow release handle, steering yoke and pulleys.
It is in Fayetteville, Georgia near Atlanta.
It weighs aprox 300 pounds and can be moved in a wide bed pick-up truck.
I will take $10,000 for this piece of Aviation History.
It would look great for an early Airborne Display coming through a wall with a Jeep behind it.
I can be reached at:
770-719-2365 or
Fax 770-719-1797
or Email: KHERN2365@AOL.COM
Respectfully, Knox Herndon

From: "Cathie Jett" - cajett1@attbi.com

Subject: ROSIES & WINNIES

Hi

I live in the Pacific NW and am chairing a committee to plan and sponsor a reunion of the

"ROSIES & WINNIES" .
These women worked in the shipyards,airplane factories, munitions plant and other jobs
that needed to be filled when their fathers, brother, husbands and sons had to go off and fight.
These women stepped up to the plate and very ably kept the country running
while 'their' men were fighting for freedom.

We would like to honor these women of the 'HIDDEN ARMY'
who fought WWII on the homefront with a reunion.
The "ROSIES" Reunion is planned for Saturday,
May 4th 2002 at the Seattle Center, Seattle WA
as part of the Annual "Washington Women In Trades" Fair.

Do you know any women who worked as a ROSIE during the WWII?
We would like to invite them and their families to the ceremony and luncheon.

I would like to get the word out to as many of the women and their families as possible.

Please have them contact me at: cajett1@attbi.com or jettca@yahoo.com.
We would also like to be able to get their stories. These women are in their 80s and 90s.

They too deserve to be honored for the work they did.
Their Patriotism was strong and they gave their all for their country.
We need to get their stories for their families and the young women of the world today.
History or should I say HERstory should not be forgotten.
Thank you for your time and attention.

Catherine Jett

"Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History!!"

PS...... Besides the Meyers units listed above, there are also 2 military lift/jacks that appear to be about 6' high before being extended. The have an I.D. stamp on them with the information below. These jacks are classic military jacks, but for which aircraft we are not sure of. We will sell these very reasonably also.

U.S. Army Airforce Airplane Tripod Jack - N9W262
TYPE AC 30 334
BlackHawk MFG. 00
Ser # 40328-A
Article AC 611500
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Other misc tools include:

Compression Tester Assy. by AETCO ( Aircraft Equipment Testing Co. Inc.
For testing aircraft engine cylinder compression
Type S-1
USAF DWG 4/R11992
Contract No. N 00 383-67-C-2585
This unit looks to be operable and in the original Military case.

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Misc Aircraft riveting tools and rivets - Some very high quality.
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Timing Indicator- Model E25 - Manufactured by Eastern Electronics Manufacturing Company Corp.
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Tools Manufactured by " Bonney " for " Pratt and Whitney " aircraft engines.
QTY Tool Part Number
#1 1 459-1
2 1 459-2
3 2 1392 B-1
4 2 1393 9/16"
5 1 1399
6 1 1402 1"
7 1 1500
8 1 1541
9 1 1633
10 1 1634
11 2 1786
12 1 2210
13 1 2397 9/16"
14 2 2812
15 1 2812 C-2
16 2 2892 5/8"
17 1 3121
18 1 3923 B-1
19 1 5365 5/8"
20 1 806487 <- not known if this is a true Bonney PWA number
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Wright Tool # 800630
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Navco Model # VTLR-2
Unknown what this item actually is. Maybe a radio?
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Small Air compressor. Manufactured by Cornelius. Model # 32-R-300 Volts 27 DC
Contacted Cornelius and they stated that it was manufactured originally to open and close bomb bay doors. Production for the compressor was then discontinued in the early '60s and possibly turned over to the " Stewart Warner" company to continue production for unknown use. The compressor itself is very small in size, approximately 12" high and at it's widest point no more than 4". The unit is a very high pressure compressor....believed to put out up to 4000 lbs PSI as per the Cornelius rep that I correspond with.
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There is more, I am sure and after this weekend, if there is more I can let you know if you are interested. But, if at all interested in the above items, contact me immediately as I am going to advertise these items on a number of sites. If you can suggest any sites with message boards or " for sale " boards, please let me know.

Brian
805-928-9898

The DC-3 Aviation Museum
is an IRS approved 501(c)(3) nonprofit foundation.

We can receive your tax deductible donation of aircraft, aircraft engines, automobiles or boats.

The DC-3 Aviation Museum
is in need at this time of a Commuter
Cessna 150, 152, or 172 (any year)
for Museum Business.

(At the Present time because of funds, we cannot pick up the donated item(s)
but we can provide all necessary documents on those items
delivered to the DC-3 Aviation Museum.

...Please contact the museum before delivery...
dc3@dc3museum.org
or:
The DC-3 Aviation Museum
2780 NW 29th St.
Mail stop C
Corvallis, OR 97330
USA

Your contribution will help us build a permanent home
for the The DC-3 Aviation Museum

· 8 hours flight instruction
· Aircraft Hire
· 14 hours Ground School
· Written Exam paper
· Type Rating Skills Test (1.5 hours)
· ©Pilot Study Notes

Course Price
£16875/€27220
..........................................................
Pilots wishing to add the DC-3 Type Rating to their Licence
should hold a valid JAR-FCL pilot licence and shall have
completed JAA:

· Multi Engine Piston Class Rating
· Valid JAA Medical Certificate
· 100 hours PIC of Aeroplanes
· Valid Multi-Engine Instrument Rating
· Multi Crew Co-operation Course
· Passed ATPL(A) Written Exams in accordance with JAR-FCL 1.285

All DC-3 flight training is conducted out of
Bournemouth International Airport, Dorset, UK
and Ground School is conducted at
European Flyers
CAA approved facilities at
Blackbushe Airport, Surrey, UK.

Books & Equipment
Pilot Study Notes supplied by
South Coast Airways
Type Rating Training Organisation
...........................................................
It is possible to carry out the JAR FCL DC-3 Type Rating on your own
DC-3 (subject to airworthiness and insurance conditions)

In this case the candidate will be responsible for own aircraft
operating costs, landing, parking, fees, etc. South Coast Airways
will provide training crew, ground facilities and examiners and
Pilot Notes.
...........................................................
Terms & Conditions

All courses must be paid for in advance. No refunds will be given
once a Course has been paid for.

The following minimum requirements must be met before commencement
of the JAR-FCL DC3 Type Rating:

1. Multi Engine Piston Class Rating
2. Valid Medical Certificate
3. 100 hours PIC of Aeroplanes
4. Valid Multi-Engine Instruments Rating
5. Multi Crew Co-operation Course
6. Passed the ATPL(A) written exams in accordance with JAR-FCL 1.285.

Students must achieve the expected standard before they progress
to the Skills Test. If the student has not achieved the standard
more training will be necessary and this has to be paid for separately.

A fuel surcharge will be applied if a litre of fuel increases
beyond £0.85+VAT (€1.37)

Euro prices quoted on this brochure €1=£0.62
Euro exchange rate current at time of purchase will be used for
calculation of course price using £Sterling as the base rate.

As the Course is held in English—Candidates must have fluent
grasp of the English language.

Course Candidate Requirements are considered to be a minimum and the
number of hours required on Course will vary for individuals.
Any further training will have to be paid for separately.

UK VAT is included in all prices shown
...........................................................
Trial Lesson

Gift Vouchers Available
...........................................................
For JAR-FCL DC-3 Training Course enquires please contact:
Julie Bradd
TRTO Director
Southcoast Airways Ltd

Email :julie@eurofly.co.uk
http://www.southcoastairways.com

Tel: +44 (0)118 983 1776
Fax: +44 (0)118 983 3744

I am seeking to compile a list of surplus and abandoned aircraft.
Also,
I am trying to get a list of places I can purchase ground equipment.
Pretty much any item of information would be greatly appreciated.

In general, I am trying to find all the aircraft junk yards and parts surplus.
Also, if anyone has any information on abandoned aircraft or
parked aircraft of unusual types that maybe acquired.

To share I saw yesteday 4 martin 404's in stennis airport, mississippi
that are to be auctioned on Dec. 17, 2000 by the county.
Also, there is a guy in the area of San Antonio, Texas
that in his yard has aircraft stands, props, tow bars, etc.
Problem is I can't get an address on him.

On another note 2 months ago contact was made with a guy in Burma that
had 3 WWII C-47's for sale.

I am really trying to locate stuff for myself
and my associates upcoming museum.
But willing to share any info I have.

I may be contacted at:

dc_3fo@hotmail.com

planecrazy@webtv.net

or
Bryon D. Gray
c/o Tiger Contract Cargo
5088 Sabre Ln.
Denton, TX
76201

I am a retired Canadian Air Force pilot.
My hobby is Stained Glass and my Three Dimensional Stained Glass Aircraft
My Douglas DC-3/C-47 Dakota - 14" long Stained Glass Aircraft may be of interest to your guests.
If anyone wishes to view my work, please visit me at:

Sir John Claypole - sirjohncla@aol.com

Flight Manual - copy of

Can anyone tell me where I can buy a copy of a pilot's flight
manual for a DC3 with P & W R1830's
- without having to take out a mortgage to buy?
John in England

1830-94 carb. Cores

R-1830 mags

Many Exhaust segments
and one set of
R-1830 Tuned Exhaust

- 7000 -Spark plugs

For R-1830 and R2800

11" oil cooler cores

"paddle blade" prop

several sets of

Pan-Am type Gear doors

Cowl flap parts
and
- Speed Cowls

Airstair Doors

Luggage Door

Executive seats

Floor Boards

Rare !
Wing bolt faring covers
- great for static displays -

Li-2/DC-3 Commemorative Flight

My name is Adam Bruski and I am a Political-Military Officer at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow.
This morning we received a fax from Russian group that is planning a commemorative flight of a Li-2
(Soviet-produced DC-3) along the Alaska-Siberia route used for the Lend Lease program.
In addition to other assistance, the group has asked the Embassy to put them in contact with any American veterans who
were involved in the transfer of aircraft along the ALSIB route.
I realize that your website is more associated with the CCG missions, but I was hoping that you could point me in the right direction for finding some of the Air Transport Command servicemen that would have been involved in the US-USSR lend lease transfers.

I think this represents a wonderful opportunity for these vets if we can inform them of this flight.
Unfortunately, time is of the essence as the Russians are planning to make the flight in late May.

Thank you in advance for any assistance you can render.
Sincerely,
Adam D. Bruski bruskiad@state.gov
POL/MIL Officer
U.S. Embassy Mosc

From: "william howe" - jason@howe-eng.freeserve.co.uk

I am looking for an abandoned / derelict / unfinished project Dakota to restore,
preferably one with an airstair type door but all others considered -
must be very very cheap and not so damaged that restoration would stretch into the next millenium !

Look forward to hearing of suitable aircraft via my e mail address.

Best regards,...Jason Howe.

Subject: PRESS RELEASE
To: Senator_Max_Cleland@cleland.senate.gov

-----FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE-----

Stephen Ambrose: Distorting History

Stephen Ambrose in his book, D-DAY June 6, 1944,
THE CLIMACTIC BATTLE OF WORLD WAR II,
penned several unsubstantiated comments demeaning the performance
of the air crews of the Troop Carrier Command, US Army Air Force.
Despite the readily accessible plethora of evidence in
the official records relative to pre-D-Day training,
especially galling and partially erroneous are his statement on page 198
that "The pilots were afraid.
For most of the pilots of the Troop Carrier Command this was their first combat mission.
They had not been trained for night flying, or flak or bad weather, ....
[New paragraph]: The possibility of a midair collision was
on every pilot's mind." (Underlined for this release.)

In these all-inclusive, undocumented statements, Ambrose writing fifty years after the fact,
is completely at odds with reality. For example, D-Day briefings for the air crews,
included the warning that absolutely no evasion
of flak was to be taken on the run into the drop zones.
By totally damning their performance, Ambrose tars the reputations
of thousands of troop carrier personnel,
both living and dead, while also casting a pall of doubt in the minds
of countless other descendants of these honorable people.

In addition, Ambrose, whether inadvertently or willfully,
impugned the military judgment of General Eisenhower.
Would the General have entrusted the delivery of 16,000 elite parachute infantry
to target areas in Normandy at night to air crews who had
"not been trained for night flying, or for flak or bad weather"?

Since the publication of his book in 1994, some veterans of the troop carrier community
have written to the author pointing out his carelessly
indifferent use of language and facts.
To date, these objections have been ignored.
As a world-wide recognized authority on World War II, historian Ambrose
is morally obligated either to document from official sources
the validity of his statements, or to correct them
and publicly apologize to the people he has so shamefully defamed.

For further information, or for a packet
containing the letters written by the veterans,
and varied official documents which clarify
the role of the Troop Carrier Command
on the D-Day mission,

contact:
Michael N. Ingrisano Jr.,
e-mail - mingnan@juno.com
(Ph: 703-356-5538);

or:

S.B.Blanchard,Jr. - sbkbblanchard@earthlink.net

"Interested in any information on incident involving Trans-Texas Airways
DC-3 inbound Hobby Airport, Houston, Texas 07-22-60.
One fatality:
Capt. S.B.Blanchard."

Dick Borisch - rborisch@aol.com

Bear, Do you know where I can find information on the crews of these specific military C-47s ?

AC47D "Spooky" gunship, 432nd Tactical Fighter Wing, Udorn R.T.A.B 1970,
Tail ID is OS, AF 74010

FC-47 "Puff " gunship, 4th Air Commando Sqd. Danang 1966, Tail # 0-48579

USAF Air Rescue Service, Det. 6 Hamilton Field San Francisco., CA. 1948, Tail # 51012

RAF Transport Command - Operation Market Garden, Arnhem Sept. 1944, kg 374 YSL

US Navy "Chuting Stars" NAS Los Alamos CA. 1963, Tail # 50762

USAAF Operation Overlord, Normandy June 6 1944, side markings 4U, Tail # 2100795,
name on nose "Sugar Blue"

USAF Airways and Communication Service 1959, Military Air Transport Service, Tail # 048892

If you have any information about the Aircrews of these Aircraft Please contact me at:

Dick Borisch
rborisch@aol.com

Jan Bos - circle82@wishmail.net

Subject: C-47 model

Dear friends,
Earlier this week I bought a full metal model of a DC-3 - C-47A version.
It is made by Corgi Classics Ltd in Southampton in England
and bought it for some $ 35.00.

The model I bought earlier this week is a full metal mode, wingspan is 19.5 centimeters.
The plane flew the Berlin lift in 1949.
The model is ready for display, the only thing to add to the plane is the stand,
the wheels are in a up-ward postion, can be removed and can be replaced
by a down-ward landing gear position.
Again the plane is a very beautiful model.

The shop I visited sells various types of C-47 or actually the DC-3 in commercial liner markings,
one of the models is a C-53, showing the smaller door, all models are full metal,
and has a stand so that the landing gear can both be in a down- or up-position.

The model I bought was made by:
Corgi Classics LTD,
P.O. Box 2001,
Southampton SO14 0HS,
England,
phone 01703-336600 (do not know the access # for England).

Maybe you can check with your toy-shop or maybe Wright Patterson AFB
as they can advise you if the models are also for sale in the States, I am sure about that,
otherwise contact Corgi in England and ask for a catalogue, hope they send it to the States.

There are also models in plastic and I saw one made of wood - larger scale - more money --> some $ 150.00

Someone asked me if there is also a model of a CG-4A glider. --- have not seen one made of metal
There are also models of the CG-4A Waco glider in plastic scale 1/72,

Jan Bos

From: DAVID EALES - atlanticpurchasing@compuserve.com
24/12/99 - Subject: Engineers wanted
UK airline is looking for experienced engineers, preferably licensed, to
work on DC3, DC6, Convair aircraft. Anyone with radial engine experience
also considered. Attractive pay scales and benefits.
Submit CV by email to - atlanticpurchasing@compuserve.com
or
contact Mike Males on **44 2476 307566 ext 2152
or
fax **44 2476 882640.

From: tony64@capital.net

Subject: METTOY DAKOTA
I am looking to purchase an old metal toy DC-3
(actually probably a DC-2 judging from the shape of the fin)
made by METTOY in the UK in the late 1930s.
The plane is yellow and blue with registration G-AOXL (or CXL).
It features battery-operated wing lights and a wind-up mechanism
turns the props and/or wheels, with a lever to select the desired action.
I would greatly appreciate any leads.

I have Two DC-3's that are available for sale. If you have any interest
please contact me at:

Jackson Resources, Inc.
Andrew Downs
4921 Yorkshire Rd
Nashville, TN 37211
(615) 837-1546
JacksFund@aol.com

References available.

For Information only...
contact numbers given for additional and updated information

DC3-C47, CARGO DOOR, QC 32 pax, eng. #1: 002 TSO, eng. #2: 884 TSO. Very clean in & out.
Located in Honduras. Need to sell, make offer. PHO. 305, 538-5878; FAX 305, 538-0188. Specs &
pictures: http://home.att.net/~captain-miami/dc-3.htm

AZ

C-47/ DC-3, 17,500 TTAF, 85/555 SMOH, 640 props. IFR, new cargo liner, camera hole, ahite/ blue
stripe. N88874 same N number since release in 45. Excellent records, dependable, well maintained,
$195,000 OBO. Need to sell. Rob Reid, 480, 641-5000, Arizona. mailto:avatrb@aol.com

DOUGLAS DC3-C 28-PAX airliner. S/N 33135, 45,961 TTSN, zero/1000 SMOH, 1348/1348 SPOH. New
Aero Services interior 1994, fireproof. Fresh wingpull U/C O/H. over 350K spent on major refurbishment
and engine O/H etc. King digital avionics. Outstanding presentation and history. $275,000. 011,
64-9-298-6249; FAX 298-4440 New Zealand; www.webwings.co.nz/dti

CAN

DC3-C47. ONLY 15,100TT, 300/150 SMOH. Very good condition. Global Aircraft. 780, 458-2801; FAX
780, 459-4163. Email: global@compusmart.ab.ca Photos at www.globalparts.com

AZ

C-47/ DC-3, 17,500 TTAF, 85/555 SMOH, 640 props. IFR, new cargo liner, camera hole, ahite/ blue
stripe. N88874 same N number since release in 45. Excellent records, dependable, well maintained,
$195,000 OBO. Need to sell. Rob Reid, 480, 641-5000, Arizona. mailto:avatrb@aol.com

CO

DC3, 16,300 total hours. Restored 1994. Room full of spare parts. Beautiful. $250,000. Larry Kamenoff,
303, 885-4209. tf

CT

DC-3D, 11,382 TT SINCE NEW, 371 & 181 engs., privately owned. In climate controlled hangar, fresh
annual, never commercially operated. One of a kind aircraft. 860, 355-1167; FAX 860, 350-5389. See
web page www.Citationstore.com

KS

TURBINE DC-3/TP-C47-B. USA certified available now. Turbine dependability, large cargo door and
floor, 10-12K useful load. Passenger, cargo, military, firefighting, etc. Sell, lease. $1,950,000 ea. Contact
J.R. or Butch, 785, 878-4000; Fax 4400, www.dodson.com

OH

C-47, $50,000. NEVER IN civilian use. Original radios. 1830-94's, low hours, ferryable. Details and
picture at www.airwolf.com 440, 632-5136, 1685 Fax. tf

GA

(2) DOUGLAS DC-3/ C-47 aircraft for sale. Both are currently airworthy and Part 135 in cargo
configuration. (1) with P&W 1830-92 (1) with P&W 1830-90D. Mid times, spare parts & cores. Military
passenger seating with navigator chair/ table and WWII era radio rack available for one aircraft.
$150,000 each for aircraft. Phone: 770, 489-2272; FAX: 770, 489-2275 or E-mail: dcecilsmith@csi.com

From: "Gary Hileman" - Hileman@inreach.com

Subject: C-47/DC-3 Aircraft Parts
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:14:27 -0700
I Recently I purchased at an Air Force surplus auction some C-47 aircraft parts ,
but I don't know what model they go on.
They had been in NKP,Thailand at one time .
Perhaps there is someone out there that can clue me into
what model of C-47 they belong to,the part numbers follow:

1560 00 133 1802 /L3475-501-Cowling
1560 00 133 2775/L3475-200 Cowling
1560 00 133 2774/L3475-201 Cowling
1560 00 133 2765/L6001 Exhaust Segment
1560 00 133 0344/L3475-500 Cowling
1560 00 133 0341/L3288-100 Fairing
1560 00 133 0339/Baffle Fuel Tank/L3654-1 & L3654-111 2 Parts
1560 00 133 0324/66PA2032 Bracket Structural
1560 00 133 0322/68PA1051 Exhaust Extension

I suspect they belong to a EC-47 or AC-47 but I don't know for sure.
If anyone could help I would appreciate it.

We have just received word from one of our group of a new restored restaurant
with good food and a good sense of humor. It is the Lodi Airport Cafe
and their menus have a DC-3/C-47 on them check them out if your in the area

Bob Peterman E-Mail: bfpmsp@onlinemac.com
Evergreen Aviation Museum
Restoring a C-47 that went through the WW II invasion. I am looking for
detailed drawings, prints or photos of all compartments aft of the cockpit
area. This includes radio equipment, crew stations, cargo/troop area and
the lavatory compartment, also detail of static line installation for paratroops

Due to the generosity of the Body of Christ, a rebuilt Wright 1820-56S was fitted to DC-3 N79MA
in late December of 1998 and she was flown home to Kissimmee.
She has since flown 4 additional missions.
We also received enough donations to build a spare engine.
These engines were re-built at cost by Dumont Aircraft Engines, Inc.
Additionally, we have gained the use of DC-3 N90079 as an additional ship for our operations.
I want to thank all who contributed of their time, money and especially their prayers!
Dr. Rob, Missionair

Can you point me in the right direction for some help.

I'm assisting a gentleman from Cirencester, Glos, U.K.
He was working at RAF Kemble as a civilian Radion Technician
in September, 1944 when a squadron of USAAF C47's swept in for a short
operation supporting the British ground troops in Belgium.

He made some acquaintances with the USAAF troops
and would like to reminisce the old days.

He is willing to pay for an ad in the "reunion" sections of
appropriate magazines.

- How can I put him in touch with any US troops of the operation?
- Where should I post this kind of question?

Thanks in advance.Steve Staso, Capt, USAFR
steve@staso.com

"Tony Harratt" tony@harratt.freeserve.co.uk

Hi, friends,
In addition to my Operation Look Up research I'm also researching the history
of an RAF station situated near my home here in England.
The sation in question is RAF Cranage (which was also known as RAF Byley)
which is situated in Cheshire south-west of Manchester.
One of the units stationed there in 1944 was the USAAF 14th Liaison Squadron
which operated Stinson L5s.
Okay, so what does this have to do with DC-3s?
Nothing - except I'm wondering if some of you guys could ask around your
friends to see if anyone served with 14th Liaison Squadron in England in
1944 and was based at Cranage.
Any snippets of information appreciated including photographs,
details of aircraft with the unit, serving members etc.
On a similar tack - and with a DC-3 connection I'm also looking at RAF Hixon in Staffordshire
(just a little south of Cranage).
RAF Hixon was used by various DC-3 units including 27th Air Transport Group.
One aircraft present in 1945 was USAAF 42-100667 named 'Nancy Pants'.
Frequent visitors include B-17's and B-24's. Once again, the request is for any
information about this base, too. Hixon was very close to Stone and was
one of the nearest airfields to the Combat Crew Replacement Centre. Anyone
visit there and care to share memories for a potential book/history?
Thanks for your indulgence. Anthony Harratt

Duncan White - dbjwhite@cybersurf.net

Subject: Scale Models,made with personalized markings.

I make scale models of aircraft , customised to specific squadrons and personalized markings.
I have just completed a aircraft for a pilot of the Liberator which he flew in the war.
It will be presented in a special ceremony this month.
All models can made with intricate cockpit detail and personalised colour schemes, markings and details.
If anyone would like more information about having a model made of a specific Dakota please contact me.
All models are meticulously researched, and can be made using original photographs.

From: AirAmBrat@aol.com
Subject: "Flugpionier In China"
Greetings All,

For those of you that are avid aviation fans and collectors of books on the
history of aviation I wanted to let you know that Max Springweiler's book
"Flugpionier In China" has just been translated from German to English. A
limited printing of 1000 copies, sponsored in part by Air America and CAT,
will be available for shipment by mid September on a first come, first served,
basis. Dr. Larry Sall, University of Texas/Dallas Special Collections
Department, which houses the Air America and CAT archives, translated the
300+ pages of text for this project.

In the early '30s many in China came to know an olive drab C-47 which was
brightened by the flaming cross logo of the Luthern World Mission - it's name
was "Saint Paul". A radio telegrapher's key on an arm of the right seat
belonged to the copilot/radio operator/flight engineer/load master/mechanic.
This crewman with five hats was Max Springweiler.

Max became a legendary "Old China Hand" and was known and respected
everywhere in China and Southeast Asia. Before the "big war" he had been a flight
engineer for Eurasia, the Chinese subsidiary of Lufthansa. A gracious and
modest man, few who were with him at the time of the "Saint Paul" missionary
flights from 1931-1949 knew that he had been decorated with China's Order in
Silver for his exploits in the Sino Japanese war. When the missionary flights
ended in late 1949 the crew received the "Saint Paul" in lieu of a salary.

Some months later the Korean war began and CAT (the airline originated by
General Chennault) found itself under the aegis of the USAF 315th Combat
Cargo Squadron. Short of planes, CAT leased the "Saint Paul" and offered jobs to
the owners. Max became CAT's manager of long-range charters.

Intended to be a legacy for his daughters and grandchildren, Max completed his
autobiography shortly before his death. A publisher snapped it up, titled it
"Max Springweiler: Pioneer Aviator in China", and distributed it throughout
Germany. This book, along with others, pinpoints CAT's unique place in the
continuing drama of aviation history and should be a nice addition to any
collector's library.

The books are $30 each (includes shipping and handling) and the best part is
that $25 of that is tax deductable since the proceeds are all going to the
AAM/CAT Archives Endowment at the University of Texas/Dallas History of
Aviation Collection. All the production costs for the book are being covered
by Max Springweiler's daughters and friends.

I will be placing an advance order for the books on 8/1/98. If anyone would
like to purchase a copy please contact me asap.

All the best!

Leigh Coleman Hotujec
AKA - The Air America Brat
SEA 62-74
"http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/6836/index.html"

Subject: RNZAF Museum- Ohakea
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 12:12:29 +1200
From: Mark Clayton <mclayton@inhb.co.nz>
Reply-To: aeromuseum-l@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz
Organization: Hawkes Bay Cultural Trust
To: Aeromuseum-l aeromuseum-l@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz

Th RNZAF Museum at Ohakea lost its best known exhibit recently when
DC-3 ZK-BYF (c/n 20051 ex 43-15585, N65393)
was removed from its prominent pole-mounted position at the entrance to the massive Ohakea airbase
on New Zealand's north Island.
BYF was loaned to the Museum when it opened to the public about five years ago,
being painted at that time to represent NZ3547.
Although the aircraft is understood still to be in good condition
the Museum has elected not to exercise its purchase option.
The DC-3's owner is now looking to sell the aircraft,
the figure $NZ 20,000
having been mooted by one source.!

NOTICE # 5751

From: Mark Clayton <mclayton@inhb.co.nz>
Organization: Hawkes Bay Cultural Trust
Reply-To: aeromuseum-l@majordomo.cs.waikato.ac.nz

"Veteran polar transport LC-47M Bu.Aer.No.17221 has finally gotten a
roof over its head, thirty years after having been gifted to the volunteer
Ferrymead Aviation Society near Christchurch, New Zealand. The LC-47M,
which had been used by the USN in Antarctica, was in airworthy condition
when first presented to the FAS." July 1998

Notice# 5748 - Anthony Harratt - a.harratt@virgin.net

Subject: Photographs Required...

Anyone anywhere with photographs of the following two DC-3's? I'd like copies for my personal collection for sentimental reasons...

G-AMSV c/n 16072/32820

previously 44-76488 - USAAF
KN397 - RAF
and operated by Transair, Lancashire Aircraft Corp., British United Airways, British United (Channel Islands) Airways, Moreton Air Services, British United Island Airways, British & Commonwealth Shipping, British Macedonian, Humber Airways, Air Freight Ltd., Skyways Cargo Airline, Peters Aviation, Sun Oil Co. and Air Atlantique with UK registration.

G-AMPZ c/n 16124/32872

previously 44-76540 - USAAF
KN442 - RAF
OD-AEQ - Lebanese Air Transport (Charter)
EI-BDT - Mercantile Aviation (Clyden Airways)
TF-AIV -Flugsyn
G-41-3-66 - British B registration
and operated by Starwys, C E Harper, Transair, British United Airways, Silver City (this one especially wanted!), British United (Channel Islands) Airways, Pan-American Indonesian Oil Co., Fields, Norfolk Airways, Air Anglia, Air Intra (Jersey), Harvest Air, Jones Aviation and Air Atlantique with UK registration.

Many thanks,
Anthony Harratt

Notice# 5747 - GEORGE ROBINSON - ltcol@earthlink.net

Looking for a few things for a working DC-3
Fuel Dipsticks marked for DC-3
The Douglas Green leather seat pads

Patches of any Service Sq., or unit that flew The Douglas Aircraft
Am putting an exhibit in the A/C for the air show season.

NOTE: there is always room for PAX when we go somewhere.

I need 8 two man seats that will mount on the
Douglas tracts
"asap"
"Chip" Robinson

Had large "NM" on fuselage during "Operation Varsity" (Rhine crossing).
Would appreciate any info.

Notice# 5745 - Ron David - MORAVIA@loon.norlink.net - Thunder Bay, ON Canada

Have DC-3 for sale,
21,500 TT, 964/4 SMOH,
212/212 SPOH,
Cargo door and floor,
28 payloader seats,
excellent corrosion free aircraft,
King avionics, price negotiable,
Ron @ 807-475-5113<br>
Fax 807-475-9587

Friday, January 02, 1998 at 07:18:09 (PST)

Notice # 5743 - C-47 Crew with ATC in CBI Theater 1943

Message posted by Cindy Bergeron Scherwinski (winski@coredcs.com)
on Wednesday, December 17 at 02:12 PM EST

Message:

Looking for information from anyone who served with
SIXTH FERRY SQUADRON, FIRST FERRYING GROUP of the ATC.

Of particular interest if you were stationed at Chabua during Feb - April 1943.

Looking for other crew and/or family members of crew who served with:
EARLE BERGERON (pilot)
and PALM (co-pilot)
flying the "Hump". Thank you.

Notice # 5742 - GEORGE ROBINSON - ltcol@earthlink.net

Subject: Parts help

OK gents-- need some help here--
looking for hardware for the C-47;
type door, door handles, and all of the little things that go into the
mechanism, also this one has been modified with an air stair--

now as you all know us mech. types just loan them to the owner/pilots,
we really do want them back in once peice,
well the good ol boy broke the hydraulic snubber, thus

A- the hinge on the bottom of the air stair is now bent up 3/4 of an inch on the bottom,

then B - he had "Gonzo" the Gorilla help him close the door and him broke it

"see if I let him get his hands on it again"

ONE MORE TIME INTO THE WISH LIST I AM LOOKING FOR A DC-3 TANK
DIP STICK IT IS LIKE THE ONE USED ON THE "CONNIES"

ONE SIDE IS MARKED MAIN,
THE OTHER IS MARKED AUX

PLEASE LOOK IN THE OLD ' JUNK' PILE OF ODDS AND ENDS
-- ANY DC3 ITEM WILL HAVE A GOOD HOME

(For info the "Connie" video tape with Arthur Godfry (also shows his DC-3) you can get it from the "Connie" restoration Group in AZ)

Notice # 5741 - Robin Zammit - robin@orbit.net.mt

Subject: Air Malta DC-3, Hi! Can any one help??

We would like to trace photographs of either of 3, DC-3s operated by
Air Malta Ltd between 1948-51.
Aircraft were leased from UK airlines, probably Silver City.

Photographs are needed as we would like to re-spray the Dakota at the
MALTA AVIATION MUSEUM in the colours of this first Maltese airline.

If anyone can help, or advise us where we can find help, please contact us:
robin@orbit.net.mt

Greetings fellow aviation enthuiast,
Our company recently restored N32MS a C-53 #43-2022 and then had the most wonderful time flying her to a new home in Holland.

We are currently in Saudi restoring the C-47 Known as SAR 1 that was a gift to King Fahd Aziz by FDR toward the end of WWII.

We are looking for a few good mechanics that would like to relocate to the desert Southwest to help us on a few other projects.

Bob Reid, Royal Aviation, Mesa Az
avatrbr@aol.com

fax 602 985 3136,
602 641 5000 voice.

Notice # 5739 - Denis Perron - ve2dps@radio.uqat.uquebec.ca

I am a radio and avionics maniac, and I am looking for an ADF (Automatic Direction Finder )
from a DC-3, or other airplane.
It can be in any condition... if it is old, working or not.
Looking also for the loop and sense antenna.
If you have or know where to find such items, please, contact me via E-mail.

Notice # 5738 - Robyn Dowsett - blackadder@lks.net
31 Transport Squadron RAF

I am trying to research the aircraft, the bases and the actions in which
RAF Transport Squadron 31 was involved while "Flying the Hump" during
WWII. If you any information, or can suggest sources I would be very
grateful. Thank you.

Ken Dowsett
RR #1 Corbyville
Ontario Canada
K0K 1V0
kdowsett@lks.net

"Ancient Silver Birds" - - - Old-time Feeder Airlines With Their Workhorse DC3s
Ancient Silver Birds is a 64-minute audio production--entertaining stories and original music-- cheerfully recalling the dozen or so years after World War II, when you could buy surplus military airplanes cheaply, and experienced pilots were looking for work. In that time of economic growth, local service airlines sprang up all over the place, linking smaller towns, and feeding passengers and freight to the major transportation hubs. The DC3, already phasing out of service with the major airlines, was the workhorse of the feeder airlines...cheap, sturdy, and fun.
That time is gone these forty-some years since. Those who remember it are awash in nostalgia. Those who
missed it are astonished by that wild and woolly activity in the commercial airways.
Ancient Silver Birds tells the tales.

Here's the complete flight log of this first production cassette:
SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THIS SITE-
We're just starting promotion of Ancient Silver Birds, this rough page is chiefly to avoid creating frustration.

If you have an uncontrollable urge to acquire the audio cassette of Ancient Silver Birds, send a
check for $19.95 ($15.95 for the cassette, $4 for shipping and handling. New Mexico residents add
5.5% for tax)

Yes, we've a wholesale price schedule for retailers.
Our email address is: correspo@swcp.com

Notice # 5736 - Alpha Industries, Inc. - dave@alphaindustries.com

My name is David Sparano, and I am an intern for Alpha Industries, Inc.
The company I work for, Alpha Industries, has a long history of providing the
flight clothing worn by the United States Air Force and Naval aviators.

Stop by our site, located at http://www.alphaindustries.com, and take a look around.
Our company was founded in 1959 and has become the largest supplier of flight jackets
and outerwear to the U.S. Military, but it is not widely known to the general public
that they can get from us the same jackets we make for the Air Force and Navy pilots.
I think the members of your organization and others who visit your site would greatly
value the opportunity to learn where they could purchase genuine USAF gear direct from
the manufacturer.

Notice # 5735 - Eagle Field AAF.

Over the years we have had anywhere from 10 to 60 warbirds attend and 800+ folks for the annual dinner.
We usually have at least 3 B-25's and have had as many as five along with PT-22, Stearman's, BT-13's, T-6's, T-34's, etc.
Clay Lacy landed with his Lear 23 a couple of years ago, it was exciting.
Eagle Field is privatly owned, The current owner is Joe Davis, a resident of Fresno, Ca. who aquired it in 1978 and is the impetuous behind the Central California Historical Military Museum based here at Eagle Field.

Bart A. Frantz
Eagle Field AAF
Voice 209-364-6132
Fax 209-364-6550

Notice # 5734 - From: GRWEBSTER@aol.com

Subject: DC-3 TOYS

THE INTERNATIONAL MINIATURE AIRCRAFT COLLECTORS SOCIETY
and The Miniature Aircraft Quarterly has published an issue of its magazine on the DC-3.
mainly color photos of all the various toys and models made.
This might be something for your shop/membership.
If interested can contact me at PO box 845, Greenwich, CT 06836

Fans of the Li-2 will be pleased to hear that a short movie clip
has been prepared by Brian Elliot at :
Flanked by Flankers (169 Kb). A flyby of veteran Li-2 tailed by two Su-27 of
Test Pilots aerobatics team. Taken at MAKS'95. © Brian Elliot.

SURVIVORS 97

A review of surviving 'classic' airliners

over 60 types covered
136 pages, 34 b/w photos

price inclusive of postage:
UKP6.95 in UK,
Europe UKP7.50,
rest of the world UKP8.75

From: Gatwick Aviation Society (OLM)
19 Brookhill Close
Copthorne
W.Sussex RH10 3PP UK

UK cheques or IMO only
(cheques made payable to Gatwick Aviation Society)

Format: aircraft listed in registration order within each type with c/n,
owner operator, most recent pi and notes/comments/sightings.

This book lists all known surviving DC-3s, there are approx. 28 pages of
DC-3s listed.

Vince Horan
WWW Pages:
Gatwick Aviation Society http://www.totavia.com/hawkeye
Old Airliners http://www.totavia.com/hawkeye/aviation.html
Vince's Home Page http://www.bandce.demon.co.uk/horan.htm

I am researching the history of the 1st Combat Cargo Squadron, which flew C-47's in the CBI in WWII (They also had to fly some C-46's but we try not to talk about that). If all I have is the AAF serial number, is there any way we can find out if any of them still exist? Some are known to have crashed, but since most were in China, that may not preclude them from having been salvaged at some point.

The squadron was initially issued C-47's 43-15901 thru 43-15925 at Baer Field, Ft. Wayne, Indiana in August 44. 914, 917, and 919 all crashed in China at various times. Will provide as complete a list as possible of other airplanes assigned if someone has means to trace. Some 1st CCS vets have asked if any of their planes have survived. Would like to be able to provide a definitive answer if possible.
Thanks in advance for any help provided.

Looking for civilian history on the Museum of Flying (Santa Monica, Ca.) DC-3c..Registered N141U..
Was originally R4D-1 C/N 4433 S/N:(possibly? S/N 01977)...7th R4D-1 built.
Served with Marine MAW-2 VMJ-253 in June 42.
This A/c served thru the war, then Civilianized for air survey work.
Ended up with large "bomb bay type hole in bottom of fuselage for apparent. deployable (?) Magnatometer mast for work in Canada for mineral exploration. A/C required EXTENSIVE rework by MOF to return to good condition.
This plane obviously has an incredible WAR and civilian history I would like to document.

Looking for information or whereabouts of air crew on C-47 S/N:138582,
severely damaged by air turbulence on or about 6/7/43 over Central Atlantic, near Accra.

This aircraft, which made it to a normal landing with more than 6 feet of wing missing from BOTH wings and more popped rivets like a "tear along dotted line" and wrinkles than an old man.
Understand that the A/C was quite overloaded and caught severe air turbulence in Atlantic storm.
Inspection by ground personnel, condemed the A/C right on the spot!

This has been my first visit to your site and I'm very impressed! You have collected such a wealth of info.,I'm sure that I will return to see somemore that I have missed.

I build some of the prototype models for Hobby Lobby International in Brentwood, Tn. and the most recent one was a 48"w.s. C-47 for 2 Speed 400' electric motors. The sound isn't there but the reliability of electrics has made multi engine radio control models much more feasable.

The kit is very complete with a buitiful fiberglass fuselage(light) and lots of scale goodies. A friend and I test flew it last weekend and it flew great! Anyway, I enjoyed the visit, keep up the good work. Mike Hines

Notice #5725From: "Helen G. McAllister" - hmp@esper.com

Subject: Major Overseas Airborne Expeditions

REMOTE AREA MEDICAL http://www.usit.net/ram is a 501(c) (3) charitable organization with no paid employees using an airborne force of volunteers dedicated to serving mankind, providing free health care, veterinary services and technical and educational assistance in remote and rural areas of the United States and around the world.

Our DC3/C47 is N9827, donated by Mr. Michael Hogan of Middletown Ohio.
It was with the US 9th Airforce in Europe on June 3rd 1944, and was believed to have been at D-Day.

N9827 is now in her second 50 years of service. Now, instead of troops and war equipment, her task is to haul medical
volunteers and their supplies to remote areas around the world.

RAM has built a portable operating facility that fits inside our DC3. We are planning major overseas airborne expeditions including possible round the world routes. Other DC3's may be needed.

People interested in this program should consult our webpages at

To learn more about our organization. For more information about this humanitarian challenge, please write or call,
Stan Brock at Remote Area Medical,
1834 Beech Street, Knoxville, TN
37920,
telephone 423.579.1530,
fax 423.5840175.
Our email address is
ram@usit.net.

-----------------------------
Thanks for posting this notice. Helen McAllister, RAM Volunteer

PS - Stan Brock is former co host of the Wild Kingdom television show
and a pilot.

Notice #5724 Henning Dammann-Emden - H30Damm@aol.com

Hello,everybody ! I think you are doing a great job in keeping the old Lady's flying.

I am a member of an historical Aviation Club in Germany and I am looking for information about the Focke-Wulf FW 200 "Condor". This great Airliner seems to have been vanished without a trace,witch is a sad story.The Lufthansa would be glad, to say the least, if there would be one of those in their hands,today. It was a much better Airplane than the JU 52,and it was planned to replace The JU 52 with the FW 200. The Nazis and their crazy war plans soon changed the situation... In today's Germany we have little information about this plane, not a single part or even drawings,everything was lost during the war. Maybe you can help us with an address or something else ? Yours Henning Dammann-Emden

Thought you might be interested in this article from November 1997 issue of "Australian aviation" magazine.

The story of that amazing aeroplane, the Douglas DC-3, seems to have no end; the latest chapter being a Royal Thai Air Force order for three Basler Turbo-67 turboprop conversions.

The aircraft will be used in a rain making program and the first is scheduled for delivery in January 1997. The others will be in service by the middle of the year. Basler is expecting further Turbo-67 orders from Thailand for rain- making and other duties.

The Turbo-67 conversion involves replacing the original Pratt & Whitney R-1830 radial piston engines with more powerful P&WC PT6A-67R turboprops driving five bladed feathering and reversible propellers. The airframe is remanafactured and the forward fuselage stretched by 1.02m (3ft 4in) to retain center of gravity while The payload is substantially increased through a combination of increased maximum weight and reduced empty weight.

Basler Turbo-67's are in service with the US Forest Service and commercial operators in the USA and Central America.

I would like to know if somebody out there might have photos of Gen. Stillwells C-47 "Uncle Joes Chariot".

My Grandfather flew C-47's in the C.B.I. Theater during WWII, and was also one of Gen. Stillwells personal pilots.

I would like to obtain any info that I can, as my grandfather is in poor health and I would like to be able to present him with pictures of his tour in the C.B.I. theater. - Regards, Terry McKnight

Notice #5717 - -Bear This is a message as I recieved it... for your information... it is not meant as endorsement...

Survivors of Mysterious 1954 Air Force Crash Are Reunited
Thanks to Pro CD's Telephone Books on CD-ROM
DANVERS, Mass., Nov. 5 /PRNewswire/ --Pro CD(R), an Acxiom(R)
company, and leading publisher of electronic directories on CD-ROM and the Internet,
shares a very special reunion for Feature Writers searching for a fresh Veteran's
Day story.

On February 5, 1954, sixteen young Air Force soldiers embarked on what they thought was a routine 260 mile cargo transport flight from Anchorage to Fairbanks, Alaska. Strangers brought together by fate, each had their own agenda -- a few were on leave, others were returning to base, some were picking up gear for the long winter ahead.

The plane never made it to Fairbanks.

An hour into the journey, a wing mysteriously ripped away from the plane, the cabin depressurized and, before there was time to respond, several men were sucked out into frigid Alaska air through jagged holes punched in the fuselage. The plane plunged earthward spilling soldiers and cargo into the icy Alaskan sky. As a handful of men safely floated earthward, they watched in horror as their trapped colleagues crashed to the ground then exploded into a ball of fire. Only those wearing parachutes lived -- ironic since none of
the survivors ever used one before.
Six soldiers made it to the ground alive to find themselves in the bitter cold wilds of uncharted Alaska. They were wounded, scared, and in desperate need of medical attention. Over the next three days, against all odds, the men miraculously survived the elements and were rescued by a search
crew from the frozen wilderness.
The survivors were hospitalized in Alaska for several weeks then released. No counseling, no emotional support, just a fresh set of clothes courtesy of the Air Force, then good-bye.

Eventually each blended into civilian life, lost touch, never again to discuss the shared experience that would become the defining moment of their lives.

Forty two years later Chapter Two is written.

In 1995, crash survivor Rupert Pratt of Scotia, New York received as a Christmas gift from his son, a copy of Pro CD's Select Phone, a software program that includes every published telephone listing in the United States -- over 100 million in all. After a few days of "fiddling" with the program, Pratt looked up the names of his fellow survivors and, almost immediately, located every one. After contacting each, with the provocative conversation opener "Do you recall where you were on February 5, 1954?" Pratt learned that, like himself, for each the crash was still very much top-of-mind. Each expressed a desire to learn what became of their fellow survivors and to resolve questions still unanswered.

Many of those questions were answered in a three-day reunion that recently took place in Fairborn, OH, near the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base where a replica of the C-47 that crashed currently resides. Survivors, their families, and families of those less fortunate, met to share stories, dissect theories of the crash and to share mementos. Artifacts brought by each include a piece of parachute, a Ronson lighter one soldier used for warmth, even a telegram home to one survivors' parents informing them of his demise! Naturally, the reunion was cathartic. Phone numbers and addresses were exchanged. A newsletter will be written by Pratt and the promise to "keep in touch" repeatedly made.
In a matter of hours, the faulty technology of that 1954 C-47 was reversed by the advanced technology of Pro CD's phone books on CD-ROM that offered one soldier an opportunity to find what he'd been missing and begin to put together pieces of his tragic past.

This story, recently featured in People magazine, will soon be released as a full-length documentary.
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The Amazing Gooney Bird: By: CV Glines

- The Saga of the Legendary DC-3 - was released early August by:
Schiffer Publishing, Ltd.,
77 Lower Valley Rd.,
Atglen,PA 19310.
Phone: (610) 593-1777 -
Fax: (610) 593-2002.
Best wishes for continued success for "The Amazing Gooney Bird": By: CV Glines. ---BEAR

I found this poem in some of my notes. You're welcome to add it to your web page if you feel it is appropriate.

I wish I were able to claim authorship of the poem but I am only a messenger, the author is unknown.

Cheers, Mark Dinan

Notice #5713 - From Melbourne Herald Sun (newspaper), Tuesday Sep 10 1996 . page 4

"TAA BACK IN SKIES"

The first Trans Australia Airlines (TAA) passenger plane to fly from Melbourne to Sydney took to the skies again yesterday for its 50th anniversary .
The DC-3 "Hawdon", a twin engine propellor driven plane, took three times longer than current flights.
Brother and sister Nancie Duncan, 75 and John Coles,65, both of Melbourne, who were on the first flight on September 9 1946 Joined 26 others for the reenactment.

DC-3 Die Cast Metal Models I have. This are all new in a box.There are 1/72 scale made by the Ertl Toy Company.

Missionair

Missionair flys the highest timed Wright powered DC-3 in the world! This aircraft flys almost daily in service to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Web site http://www.missionair.com

This museum, unique to the state of Colorado, is a tribute to American military airmanship and is the largest collection of vintage aircraft on the Eastern Range. The museum is free and open to the public seven days a week.
Members of the Pueblo Historical Society, a volunteer group of ex-military and civilian personnel, manage and operate the aircraft display as well as performing the repair and restoration of the aircraft.
The Society is open to all who wish to join and become a part of the team dedicated to preserving the aviation history of the city of Pueblo.

The organization may be contacted by writing to:
Pueblo Historical Society
31001 Magnuson Ave.
Pueblo, Co. 81001

Notice #5607 - From: YYGV85A@prodigy.com (Michael Mcdonough)

The New England Escadrille is a non-profit organization located in Fitchburg Ma. Our C-47 is up and flying after a three year layoff. Also We are currently looking for a navigators seat and radio operators seat. Any info on the radios used in these birds would be greatly appreciated. Cabin lights and jump cable are also needed. Old photos and memorabilia is also needed for display in our "flying museum".
Please contact Mike McDonough at (617)596- 2134 or mail to 11 Euclid Ave. Lynn, MA. 01904

Notice #5604 - Here is a listing that I've made of the different names and numbers used for the various models of DC-3

In transport with the 6th Airborne Gooney birds were issued 12 ea. 20 pound bombs to be used on targets of opportunity such as German Ack-Ack battery's

Russian Li-2s used by the military carried a machine gun in a top turret, and had wood stoves inside for heat

US (Douglas 11,000+ made)
(3,252 C-47B w/2stage superchargers were built to "Fly the Hump")

Designations: DC-3, DST, C-33, C-39, C-41, C-42, C-47, C-48, C-49, C-50, C-51, C-52, C-53, C-68, C-117, R4-D.

Russia (2,000 - 8,000)
Li-2, Li-2R, Li2P, Li2G, Li2PG, Li-2T, Li-2F, Li-2V, Li-3

Japan (487) Mitsui and Co. LTD. had DC-3 rights
Mitsui and Co. LTD. received 20 disassembled DC-3 to use as patterns
Showa set up the assembly line and built 414
Nakajima had DC-2 rights but built 71 "Tabby"
L2D2, L2D3, L2D3a, L2D3-1, L2D3-1a, L2D4, L2D4-1, L2D5
Showa-built L2D code named "TABBY" (Copy of DC-3A)
powered by Mitsubishi Kinsel Engines (licensed copy of Pratt & Whitney Twin Wasp)

Fokker was a Dutch national who only built during WW I planes in Germany.
After that Anthony Fokker returned home and started an aircraft factory on Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam. The factory stayed there until now.

In the 1930's Fokker acquired the rights for Douglas in Europe. Planes were transported by ship to Cherbourg (France) and antwerp (Belgium).
There the planes were assembled and flown to Schiphol, where they were completed for their clients.
In all were 23 planes assembled: 23 for KLM. 4 for Swissair, $ for ABA (Sweden), 4 for CLS (Czechoslowakia), 19 for Aeroflot, 2 for Lares (?), 2 for Sabena, 1 for Air France, 1 for Aer Lingus and 1 for CNAC (China).

(My special thanks to Magiel Venema - magiel.venema@tip.nl -
for the correction of this section - Bear)

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